Financing Operations, Export Financing, And Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2005
15 July 2004
The Committee resumed its sitting.
Mr. SANDERS. Mr. Chairman, I yield
3 minutes to my friend, the gentleman
from Texas (Mr. PAUL).
(Mr. PAUL asked and was given permission
to revise and extend his remarks.)
2004 Ron Paul 60:1
Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, the author of the amendment, and I am a coauthor
of it, mentioned that it has a broad
spectrum of individuals supporting it.
He mentioned progressives and liberals
and conservatives and moderates, but
he forgot the libertarians.
2004 Ron Paul 60:2
Libertarians support this as well and for a precise reason. A free market libertarian
does not believe in welfare for
anybody, let alone the rich, and it is
particularly gnawing to see the subsidies
go to the very wealthy.
2004 Ron Paul 60:3
I am in strong support of this amendment, but, like the gentleman from
California, I do not support this for the
purpose of collecting more taxes, but I
do think it is a message to us here that
if we do not revise our tax system and
our regulatory system we will prompt
more and more business to leave this
country.
2004 Ron Paul 60:4
So there are two issues here, but corporate welfare and subsidies should
have no part in this. There is no room
for it. It is wrong.
2004 Ron Paul 60:5
Also, the beneficiaries outside the corporations we should not forget either,
because the biggest country that
benefits from this is China. Why do we
subsidize China? People who receive
the goods get a benefit as well as the
people who get to sell the goods get a
benefit? China is on the books right
now currently with $5.9 billion in outstanding
loans. They receive more than
anybody else. So there is something
wrong with a system like that.
2004 Ron Paul 60:6
There are two economic points that I want to make on this. When we do this
and we allow tax credit and special
deals for some corporations, we assume,
and we will hear this in the defense
of the Ex-Im Bank, and say look
at the good that we do. But what they
fail to ask is, where did it come from,
who was denied the credit? The fact
that we do not finance it does not
mean it would not happen. It would
happen.
2004 Ron Paul 60:7
What it does is it distorts the market and causes people to do the wrong
thing, and some individuals do not get
the credit is obviously the case, but
what we need to do is to have a much
more oriented free market. When we
direct it this way, even those companies
may do more than they ordinarily
would, and that participates in the economic
bubble that occurs, of course, for
other reasons as well. Then there has
to be corrections. But if one is in a
powerful position in a place where they
can qualify, and 80 percent of this goes
to the very, very large companies, although
there are a lot of companies
that receive the big bucks, and big
countries like China.
2004 Ron Paul 60:8
This is corporate welfare. It should be defeated; and, ultimately, if we believe
in liberty and freedom, we ought
to get rid of the Export-Import Bank.