2000 Ron Paul 57:1
Mr. Chairman,
I rise in
support of
the amendment, and I want to thank the gentleman from California (Mr. Campbell)
for bringing this amendment to the floor, along with his colleague, the
gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Bonior). This is a
crucial amendment. It is vital that we pass it.
2000 Ron Paul 57:2
This is truly
a civil
libertarian issue. It does go back to 1215 with the Magna Carta. It is
not an American invention, that people should be protected and not
convicted on secret information. This is not something new. However, it
has been abused for hundreds of years at least. It has been abused by
totalitarian governments.
2000 Ron Paul 57:3
Now, many may
say
today that this is not a big deal; this is not going to affect the
American citizens; it is just a couple of poor old immigrants that may
be affected. But what is the motivation for the national ID card? Its
good motivation to make sure there are no illegal immigrants coming in.
So its said we need a national ID card. But who suffers from a
national ID card? Maybe some immigrants, and maybe there will be an
illegal one caught? But who really suffers? The American people.
Because they will become suspect, especially maybe if they look
Hispanic or whatever.
2000 Ron Paul 57:4
Well, who
suffers
here? Well, first the immigrant who is being abused of his liberties.
But then what? Could this abuse ever be transferred to American
citizens? That is the real threat. Now, my colleagues may say, oh, no,
that would never happen. Never happen. But that is not the way
government works. Government works with incrementalism. It gets us
conditioned, gets us to be soft on the protection of liberty.
2000 Ron Paul 57:5
Our goal
should not
be to protect the privacy of government. Certainly we need security,
and that is important; but privacy of government and the efficiency of
government comes second to the protection of individual liberty. That
is what we should be here for. I wish we would do a lot less of a lot
of other things we do around here and spend a lot more of our efforts
to protect liberty. And we can start by protecting the liberty of the
weak and the difficult ones to defend, the small, the little people who
have nobody to represent them, the ones who can be pushed around. That
is what is happening, all with good intentions.
2000 Ron Paul 57:6
The national
ID card
is done with good intention. Those who oppose us on this amendment, I
think they are very, very sincere, and they have justifiable concerns
and we should address these. But quite frankly, killing and murder for
a long time, up until just recently, was always a State matter. This is
rather a new phenomenon that we as a Federal Government have taken over
so much law enforcement. That is why the Federal Government, when it
sets this precedent, is very bad.
2000 Ron Paul 57:7
So I plead
with my
colleagues. I think this is a fine amendment. I think this not only
goes along with the Constitution, but it really confirms what was
established in 1215 with the Magna Carta. We should strongly support
the principle that secret evidence not be permitted to convict anyone
in an American court.
Mr. CAMPBELL. Mr. Chairman, will
the gentleman yield?