1999 Ron Paul 85:1 Mr. PAUL.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself
such time as I may consume.
1999 Ron Paul 85:2 Mr. Chairman, the gentlewoman
makes the point that we should not use
the abortion issue to talk about
fungibility and I believe that she is
correct. I think it should apply to everything.
1999 Ron Paul 85:3 This is the reason I do
strongly oppose Export-Import Bank
money going to Red China. Their violations
of civil liberties and abortions
are good reasons why we should not do
it, and yet they are the greatest recipient
of our foreign aid from the Exim
Bank. $5.9 billion they have received
over the years.
1999 Ron Paul 85:4 So I would say, yes, the gentlewoman
is correct. All of these programs are
fungible. And I agree that the wording
in the bill says that our funds cannot
be used. But when we put our funds in
with other funds, all of the sudden they
are in a pool and they can shift them
around and there is a real thing called
fungibility.
1999 Ron Paul 85:5 So once we send money to a country
for any reason, we endorse what they
do. Therefore, we should be rather cautious.
As a matter of fact, if we were
cautious enough we would not be in the
business of taking money at the point
of a gun from our American taxpayer,
doing things that they find abhorrent
around the world and imposing our will
and our standards on them.
1999 Ron Paul 85:6 Mr. Chairman, birth control methods
are not perfectly safe. As a gynecologist,
I have seen severe complications
from the use of IUDs and Depo-Provera and Norplant. Women can have
strokes with birth control pill. These are not benign.
1999 Ron Paul 85:7 And my colleagues say we want to
stop the killing and abortions, but
every time that the abortion is done
with fungible funds, it is killing a
human being, an innocent human
being. So for very real reasons, if we
were serious about stopping this and
protecting the American taxpayer,
there is nothing wrong with some of
these goals. I agree. As a gynecologist,
I would agree with the goals, but they
should not be done through coercion.
They should be done through voluntary
means through churches and charities.
That is the way it should be done.
1999 Ron Paul 85:8 Mr. Chairman, we do not have the authority
to coerce our people to work
hard, pay their taxes, and then take
the money into foreign countries and
impose our will on them.
The CHAIRMAN. All time for debate
has expired.
The question is on the amendment
offered by the gentleman from Texas
(Mr. PAUL).
The question was taken; and the
Chairman announced that the noes appeared
to have it.
1999 Ron Paul 85:9 Mr. PAUL.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a
recorded vote, and pending that I make
the point of order that a quorum is not
present.
The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to House
Resolution 263, further proceedings on
the amendment offered by the gentleman
from Texas (Mr. PAUL) will be
postponed.
The point of no quorum is considered
withdrawn.
Notes:
1999 Ron Paul 85:3
yet they are the greatest recipient of our foreign aid from the Exim Bank. $5.9 billion probably should have a comma and not a periof after Bank and read:
yet they are the greatest recipient of our foreign aid from the Exim Bank, $5.9 billion.
1999 Ron Paul 85:6
Women can have strokes with birth control pill.
probably should be plural: Women can have strokes with birth control pills.
