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27 July 2010
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I am happy to yield 3 minutes to my good friend from Lake Jackson, Texas (Mr. PAUL).
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Mr. PAUL. I thank the gentleman from California for yielding, and I thank you both for bringing this rule to the floor. Even though it is a privileged resolution, a privileged resolution has to qualify under the law, and under the War Powers Resolution, this does qualify.
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The question is, why are we doing it at this time? It seems like Pakistan is a minor problem compared to whatís going on in Afghanistan as well as Iraq, but I think people have to realize that we go into war differently these days. We donít make declarations of war and the people get behind it. We slip into war. We fall into war. We get into these messes, and it seems to me like itís so much easier to get into these problems than getting out. We debate endlessly about getting out of Afghanistan. Weíve debated for years about how and when itís ever going to end in Iraq, and we bring this up now because this is an appropriate time. It is escalating. The war is spreading, and weíre trying to stop this. Weíre trying to let the people know and let the Congress know that this war is getting bigger. It is not getting smaller. A lot of people thought with this administration war would get smaller and we would end some of this.
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It has been said that we need to be in Pakistan for national security reasons. I disagree with that. I think the fact that weíre in there makes me feel more threatened because Pakistan is not about to attack us. We talk about the few troops there and that theyíre insignificant and we shouldnít worry about it, itís not significant, but thatís the way we started in Vietnam. People were training soldiers, and before you knew it, we lost 60,000 people.
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But you know, in this day and age, with the type of wars that we fight, occupation with combat troops is not exactly how we get involved, and I believe the way I read the War Powers Resolution, it does involve attacks on countries with bombs. This is what weíre doing. Weíre attacking this country. The people of Pakistan donít like it. The number of drone attacks in Pakistan now has doubled the number that it was under the Bush administration. So it is escalating. There have been 14 al Qaeda leaders killed by these drone attacks, but there were also 687 civilians killed. So, therefore, the efficiency of this isnít all that good, and now thereís reports coming out that these drones donít always come back, and a lot of times they crash, and a lot of times we have to go out and find them. So thereís a lot of activity going on.
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There is another reason we bring this up at this time. It is financial. We canít afford to expand the war. We canít afford the wars we have already. We canít afford to take care of our people at home. This costs money, and since we see this as an escalation and more provocation and a greater danger to us, because people are going to get upset. The people donít like this. There has actually already been a court ruling in Pakistan.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlemanís time has expired.
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I yield my friend an additional 2 minutes.
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Mr. PAUL. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
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But the finances are certainly important. In the Congress, because weíre slipping into this war, we have just recently granted $7.5 billion of aid to Pakistan. And what did they do with this money?
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Well, itís supposed to not be military. Itís supposed to help rebuild their country, help their infrastructure. Well, we need a couple of dollars here for our infrastructure. But they can take that money; itís fungible. It goes into their intelligence. Their intelligence observations are being used for the Taliban, and we are fighting the Taliban.
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So itís totally inconsistent that we are on both sides of so many wars and whatís going on. The mujahedin, they were our allies and we were fighting the occupation of the Soviets. Itís the occupation that is the issue, and we were on their side and the Soviets were run out.
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But now that same group, who are called the Taliban now, the Taliban, we have to remember, had nothing to do with 9/11. It was the al Qaeda, not the Taliban. The Taliban are people who are unified with one issue, one concern they have, foreign occupation or foreign bombings of those countries.
2010 Ron Paul 44:11
We need to make sure the American people know whatís going on and that there are sometimes revelations that we donít hear about. Too often our government is involved in secret wars. There was secret bombing of Cambodia back in the 1960s, and here we are slipping and sliding once more into the escalation of this war which, unfortunately, is going to cost us a lot of money; itís going to cost us a lot of lives, a lot of innocent lives.
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Unfortunately, I wish I could believe that we are going to be more secure for this. I think we are going to be less secure because of this activity, and we will finally someday have to meet up to the question of why do they want to come here to kill us? Do they want to do it because of their religion? Do they want to do it because we are rich and because we are free? No. They want to come here because we occupy their territory.